I was speaking with a friend that is a leader in the prophetic movement on Facebook and we got on the issue of restoring people to ministry. I believe what happened with Todd Bentley at the end of the Lakeland Revival is an open rebuke to the whole system. Continue reading…
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Before we get started on this, I want to say that I will no way make fun or mock the condition of Justin Peters. I am saddened by his sickness that he has and more sickened that most of the issue he faced in because of a fear based theology he that was told was biblical. However, I know first hand the problems of dealing with sickness.
As I understand it, he has Cerebral Palsy and was prayed for by R.W. Schambach. I am not sure if that is in Tulsa or not. I also understand he has some very unkind words about the faith movement. I believe part of this might be because of living in Tulsa when things did get out of control in the early 1990’s. I was in the mix of it all and I will only said there are some thing happening, especially at Rhema Bible Training College that made me uncomfortable. (Yes, I am a graduate of Oral Roberts)
As someone that has a medical issue (but will preach healing all day), I disagree with Justin on being “content with life.” I believe we should always be trying to level up spiritually. We are to move closer to God than we was yesterday. Smith Wigglesworth said it best, “If you are in the same place in God than you are yesterday, you are backsliding.”
But, hey, that is a whole new discussion for another day.
Justin Peters has a problem with the Word of Faith Movement
The funny thing about this is I am firmly in the faith movement, graduate of Oral Roberts and all, but I probably agree on more issues with Justin that he would probably believe. I have preached against people laying hands on cars and “claiming them.” I walked out of a chapel at ORU and later confronted Kenneth Copeland to his faith for some things that was outside the Word. I did not think telling thousands of students in debt over their ears that “show me your bank account, I will show your faith” was right.
With that said, I believe that if you believe, you will recieve. It is a done deal. I believe that Prosperty is the will of God and there is a purpose for it. Every single promise of prosperity in the Bible is connected to a passage about the great commission. Prosperity is not for you, it is through you. After all, renting stadiums, buying bibles, and getting plane tickets are not free.
I have watched Benny Hinn much like Justin has. In fact, I had met with Benny twice and went have dinner with him once. He is a great person who loves people. He has helped many people around the world by building children’s homes for them. I have visited the ones he finances in Manila.
What else I have done is been on the platform of the crusade when Benny Hinn was touched by the Holy Spirit and it led him to re-think some of his positions on prosperity. It was in 2007 in Manila, Philippines. He saw the hunger of the poor spiritually and realized that poverty was not a demonic spirit.
I guess the difference between Justin Peter and myself is I am in the faith movement (with my eyes wide open) and see its problems. He is on the outside and can’t see its’ benefits. My guess would be the Word of Faith has won more people to Christ than any movement in the last twenty five years.
What about the Todd Bentley issue?
I know Todd. I was in the middle of the whole thing in Lakeland. I was in Oklahoma preaching in protracted meetings when I got an email that the fire of God was falling in Lakeland. I was ready to go….then I found out it was Todd Bentley’s meeting. At first, I knew the theological issue I had with Todd but I also knew he was a man of the Spirit and believed in the fullness of Pentecost. I asked a friend to come lead the revival I was in from Springfield and I left for Lakeland. When I went, I had a bible in one hand, a Strongs in the other and a mind that said, “Eat the meat and throw away the bones.”
I remember during those days getting emails from some pretty important ministries that was asking why in the world I was there and if I really believe that God was moving. They believed that I had really put my neck on the line and that Todd was unstable. Then, to my surprise one of those who emailed me walked onto the platform one evening and prayed for Todd to have the spirit of boldness.
What think I can tell you is my theology did not change because of being in the meetings and I was still doctrinally the same person. The important was that hundreds of people did not have the same story. They were delivered from drugs, sex addictions and crime by the presence of God in the meetings.
Where Justin Peters and I disagree is open attacks and using the bible, out of context, to do it. I want to include a video of Justin openly attacking Todd. What I do want to say is I respect Justin for doing it to Todd’s face.
The passage that Justin used is not against healing, delivernce or raising the dead. It is about doing the will of God. Todd is a doer of God’s will. How do I know? I have traveled with Todd Bentley to Africa and to South America. He preached the salvation message just as much as Justin Peters preaches it. It is the simple ABCs of salvation. God’s will is none would perish but all would come unto eternal life.
I can not help but think that there would have been a better way to handle this then to make a big public confrontation. The gospels tells us to go to them in private and if need be, bring others. To this regard, I have to say that Justin Peters did not do that and that Todd handled it quite well.
Justin Peters is an Independent Fundamental Baptist
From what I can tell, the guy is a hard core Fundamentalist that is to evangelicalism what Oneness Pentecostals are to Charsmatics. These guys live for a fight and they believe that holiness is about how you dress and what translation you use. Legalism is the name of the game and I have seen far too many people end up living in open sin once they get a little distance from the legalism. Not good.
My mother had a friend who had some issues with my mom being in ministry because her baptist church was against it. They just agreed to disagree and had a somewhat decent friendship for alot of years. Her son and I didn’t get along because I turned basketball into WWE too many times.
Then, the friend of my mom got Multiple Sclerosis and she became more and more against healing and her pastor was telling her that is was “the will of God.” As things went on, my mom and her became less friendly because my mom does not believe (nor do I) than disease is the design of heaven or the Kingdom in this world.
Where I stand on the whole Discernment (heresy hunters) ministries
I get that you want to keep people accountable and all but we need to build up people and to say anyone that disagrees with you is going to hell just is not right. I believe that Justin Peters will be in heaven with me and I believe that Todd Bentley will be in heaven with me as well.
At the end of the day, we must remember that our faith is based on just that, faith; not doctrine or philosophies.
See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ. (Colossians 2:8)
For the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power. (1 Corinthians 4:20)
A lot of pastors talk a lot about community. We hear about it. We talk about it. We talk more about it but we miss one very important truth: it is communion, not community that drives the supernatural in our midst. The Bride of Christ is not your local YMCA or 4-H group.
I understand why pastors want to talk about it, I do. It is to their benefit to make sure people are connected. The more people who connect to your vision, the larger the offerings. Pastors seeing community as a way to live a better quality of life for themselves. Yes, pastors are just as selfish as everyone else.
In my study of history of Christianity, I have never found a revival that broke out by having lattes at Starbucks together and “doing life together.” The closest example would be the Moravians in the 1720’s. However, a closer look shows is much less about fellowship and just a group of people having similar but personal touches of the Holy Spirit.
A look at Pentecostal history tells that we have never seen a revival come from community. Azusa Street did not have it. Foursquare and Apostolic Faith didn’t either. The Latter Rain revival and the Voice of Healing did not see it, either. The same testimony would be true for Charismatic renewal and more recently the Toronto Blessing and Brownsville Revival. It has no bearing on revival whatsoever.
Not once did people gather to open the bible sipping on their lattes from Parena Bread and the Holy Spirit showed up and they started have licks of fire on their tongues like in Acts 2.
If not community, what is the key to revival?
It has always been communion with the Holy Spirit. William Seymour was not known for his hugs but he was known for putting his head in an egg crate and crying “Come, Lord Jesus, Come.” The Latter Rain revival started the same way. Even Brownsville started as a response to eighteen months of deep communion with the Holy Spirit. It is the pattern we see.
Smith Wigglesworth launched his worldwide ministry is response to ten days of communion with the Spirit. He locked them himself in a room and went to bliss with the Spirit. AA Allen had the same story as well.
The pattern is they have communion with the Spirit and because of that, the culture of heaven overflow through them to the broken and dying world around them. They live and base ministry on bringing heaven to earth and living the words of Christ, “On Earth as it is in heaven.”
These guys were not the most social people on earth but they raised the dead, they healed the sick, they cast out devils and they preached with signs and wonders. A.A. Allen was known for even avoiding discussion with people at times. He are no social lite but the miracles he saw was out of this world.
If you want to change the world, you won’t do it going to the community baseball game for the church. It will be in the secret place contending for revival.
Is community anti-revival?
Not really. It can kill a revival faster than anything but it doesn’t have to be anti-revival. If it happens organically, it will not make the Holy Spirit “pack up and go home.” The keyword here is organic. In my experience, pastors struggle with having faith that is organically made.
When they made community a focus and not the presence of the Holy Spirit, revival is over. It might last a few more weeks but the Holy Spirit will be leaving with the Presence quickly. He will not take second place to home groups and coffee shops. He just won’t. He will find someone who want communion first.
Organic community where people are personally in pursuit of the Kingdom in their lives and the presence of the Holy Spirit is where God is honored.
The attempts of pastors to make it happen in their own efforts and by manilipation and guilt tactics is what grieves the Holy Spirit.
How do I know it grieves the Holy Spirit? The same greek word for “Quench Not the Spirit” is used again in Matthew 25:1-13 that is all about communion with the Holy Spirit. When we care more about community, the Spirit is grieved.
When we think that being the Bride of Christ is about us, we have miss the whole point. The Bride exist for the Bridegroom, not herself!
This problem is as old as the gospel
In Luke, we read about a story of two sisters; one was praised and the other was confronted. One day, Jesus came to their house and one of them was busying getting everything ready for everyone to have community and probably a feast.
The other sister was smarter. She did not care about community or even the culture she lived in. All she cared was she wanted to worship the Lord. It says she sit there and did not get up for anything. She was locked on the presence of the Holy Spirit.
The community focused sister was not happy and ask Jesus to tell her to help her so they could have community with other people following Christ. There are preparations needed to host people to have fellowship, after all.
Jesus respond and told her that the sister at her feet was right where she should be and if she was smart, she would quit worrying about the cake in the oven and all this community business so she could join. Worship and communion is what really matters. It is what draws the masses to Christ.
This is one thing I love about Todd Bentley. He would just sit at the feet of Jesus. He didn’t care if he was on national television. He wanted the presence of God. He would soak in the glory of the Lord every night.
People on their way to sell drugs would be draw to the meetings and they got radically saved. It was not the preaching that delivered them; it was the presence of the Lord doing it.
Communion with the Holy Spirit works!
I believe that worship leader Roy Fields is harbinger to this generation. I do not know him well on a personal level but from what I can see from a distance, I like. He is very spiritual without much religion.
I will never forget when I got a call from a friend that revival was breaking out in Lakeland, Florida. The message I hear was “Get here. Revival is in the land. Bring it!” The only problem was I was in the middle of extended meetings myself in Oklahoma. I told the pastor to take the meeting and that the heavens was open.
I got the next flight out of Tulsa for Florida. I landed with an issue: I kindly knew Todd Bentley, I did not really know anyone else besides Roy Fields. I did not come to have a platform ministry in the revival and I knew that God would call in the big boys of revival if this went anywhere. I was there to cry “More, Lord!” It was refreshing more than anything to be honest.
What I loved was the meetings was about signs, wonders, and miracles. I had been preaching revival meetings for the last three weeks and preaching Brownsville Revival style meetings are great but I missed the crusade type meetings that Todd does.
Roy Fields, the worship leader
I knew Todd Bentley well enough to know that God was moving inspite of him, not because of him. I did not know him super well but I knew there was issues with him personally and that there was serious doctrinal issues. Yet, like William Branham; he will allow God to use him. He knows how to host the Holy Spirit.
What was gripping to me was the worship by Roy Fields. This guy didn’t care about being Micheal W. Smith or being the next Third Day. He really just wanted to sit at the feet of Jesus. He didn’t care what was going on in the “Kitchen of the revival.” He just wanted to be at the feet of the Lord. It was refreshing. If you want to see revival, get a worship leader that doesn’t care about being famous.
He could worship for hours. He had an anointing for it like few I know. He reminded me of Lindell Cooley in the Brownsville Revival and Rick Pino. They are just psalmists and do not give a rip about “ministry.” I knew that if the worship remains there; the masses will come to the meetings. In Brownsville, the worship would just draw drug addicts and they could not explain why. I knew Todd was no Steve Hill and God will make up the difference. The worship was there.
Every revival has its sound. The sound of revival will create a rhythm of heaven over the region. It opens the heaven over churches, neighborhoods and cities. All we need was the sound to get this thing going. We had that and Roy Fields had his heart right where it needed to be.
When we have the sound of revival come in agreement with the rhythm of heaven; the roar of the lion of the tribe of Judah will send waves of renewal to a nation.
Roy Fields as a preacher
One thing I know is most worship leader can’t talk. They are lost without a keyboard or guitar in their hands. They do not have much ability to preach. However, I can’t say that about Roy. He has the same heart when preaching as he does when he is worshipping. He can bring the message from the heart of God.
To be honest, while I love Todd, I got alot more from the times I hear Roy speak. Todd brings the presence of the Holy Spirit. That can be never discounted but Roy could bring the message from the heart of the Father.
He came with a very unique message that was critical to the Bride of Christ. I saw the breath of the Holy Spirit on him and I knew that God was raising up a man to be a voice, not an echo before my eyes. It was fun to watch to say the least. God is cool like that!
I watch God raised him up and when I felt it was time to get out of the revival and prophets were calling me right and left to get out of Lakeland; I prayed that Roy would be sparred from the judgement of religious spirits.
Roy Fields made it out of the wreckage
A week after I came back to Kansas City to get ready for some revival meetings in Mexico; all hell broke loose in Lakeland. I knew it was coming. Everyone in the prophetic that was not directly connected with Todd was saying that crap was about to hit the fan. I knew a little about it in the natural but not much.
Todd was put on the cross and killed. Many people were faced with having their whole ministry destroyed or deny the presence of God. I was not in the eye of the people at all while there so I did not take the hit they did.
Roy was not taken on the altar like most was and he actually raised out of the ashes to soar. He is like a Phoenix in the old Greek mythology. Run with Fire Ministries really kicked off and it was Beauty from Ashes. His ministry has only grew from there since. He is now all over the christian world….. TBN and all.
As far as everyone else, they recover from what the enemy had planned. Todd Bentley is back in ministry and seems to be doing alot better and a lot more grounded in the scriptures. He is still hosting the Holy Spirit like he always did but more solid in his theology. That is good. I love angels but angels are not the gospel. Jesus did not die for them. He died so the redeemed of the Lord could say so.
I openly questioned Suliasi Kurulo and some of the positions of CMF International. Most of the discussion has been healthy leading to some stories of former members who have seriously destroyed by their overly aggressive emphasis on giving Kurulo anything he wants when he wants.
Having grew up spiritually in the midst of revival during the Brownsville Revival and been through many move of the Spirit (Toronto Blessing, Brownsville Revival, Smithton Outpouring, Lakeland Revival), I have seen the best, the worse and everything between the two.
It is safe to say that I have some cults in the midst of revival. In fact, one of the leaders in revival in time became a cult leader himself. The reality is Pentecostal ministry without the presence of the Holy Spirit will give you all types of crazy ideas….and we all know that that become….a cult.
I have been an eye witness to what goes on in the ministry of Suliasi Kurulo, CMF International and World Harvest Centre in Suva, Fiji. This is not hersay. I have watched the worship of men and the mind control happen repeatedly.
I remember at Oral Roberts University, we learned that there are seven ways (at least) to realize if someone is leading a cult. In this case, Suliasi Kurulo meets all seven of them. It is clear that World Harvest Centre is a cult!
You stumble day and night, and the prophets stumble with you. So I will destroy your mother— my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I also reject you as my priests; because you have ignored the law of your God, I also will ignore your children. (Hosea 4:5-6)
World Harvest Centre criticizes freedom of expression
One of the quickest way to find out if a group is a cult is to see if people are encouraged to think for themselves and are allowed to disagree with the church. If they must believe in a way just because that is what the church tells them; it is clearly a cult.
Most of the people at World Harvest Centre hold values, not because they read the Word and the Holy Spirit led them to that position but because they were told from the platform or their zone leaders what they should believe. Questioning the positions of Suliasi Kurulo and CMF International is just not acceptable. You will be humiliated if you do. If not, at least, you will become the gossip of the church.
Open questioning of the teaching of Suliasi Kurulo is completely not acceptable at the church. People follow his thought more than the freedom of the Holy Spirit. There are many extra-biblical requirement that he places on the people from giving to dress to attendance to “zone meetings.”
Do not quench the Spirit. Do not treat prophecies with contempt but test them all; hold on to what is good, reject every kind of evil. (1 Thess. 5: 19-22)
We are told by the Apostle Paul that we are to not quench the Spirit, honor the prophetic ministry, test (or question) everything) keep the good and reject the bad. This is the biblical model for the believer. None of this is encouraged at World Harvest Centre. No questioning of Suliasi Kurulo is allowed.
World Harvest Centre breaks up families
Core to spiritual life on this side of heaven is your family. God even speaks of family wide salvation in Acts. It is far more important that many realize to the heart of God. Major division in the family is not good and it really is not good when it is created by the church and its’ leader.
Many have contacted me since I release the article about the pastor with stories of families broken on the membership at World Harvest Centre. Many of them have lost great amounts of money due to unhealthy giving to World Harvest Centre.
In one case, giving to the ministry cause a man to separate from his wife because she would not quit giving money they need for food to the church. It might be one of the more extreme examples but it is happening because of the teaching of Suliasi Kurulo.
Women in the church are more loyal to the teaching of the pastor than to the leadership of their husband and this is expected by the men. Children are raised by the church and not the leadership of their parents. This flies in the face of everything scriptural.
World Harvest Centre and emotional abuse
This is another area that I saw very up close. Leaders abusing people who did not give enough. They would get businessmen get up and tell the people that people are not giving enough. They would use cute lines like “what God has done in my life, He will do it yours if you give today.” Nevermind that a business owner has the ability to make ten fold what a salaried worker at MH Supermarket can make. It does not have to be practical or biblical; just as long it is preaches good from the platform. That is all that matters.
People who live the church was cut from relationship by anyone still there. If they do not return, all relationship with them are lost and will never recover anytime in the future. Welcome to the mind control of World Harvest Centre in Suva, Fiji.
They control to see your success is because of the church and therefore, you owe them your life as a means of saying thank you. You exist to empower Suliasi Kurulo. The biblical role of a pastor is to empower you, not you empower him!
World Harvest Centre believes in elitism
They are known to disrespect other ministries and degrade them publicly. The pastor has a special hatred for the movement known as New Methodist Christian Fellowship in the Fiji Islands. I am no sure why the distaste. I am sure it is a threat to the Kingdom of Kurulo. They really believe that their church is bigger and better than everyone else in Fiji. On a side note, CMF International hardly even matter when you look at the size of the Methodist Church in Fiji. The domination that I belong to, the Assemblies of God is larger than CMF but much smarter than the Methodists.
The pastor claims to be the pastor to the military and prides himself in having members in harm’s way in the middle east. Let me be clear: Fiji’s Army is only in the middle east for the paycheck. CMF International encourages this so they can get more in their bank accounts too. As a veteran, no amount of money will be enough to go back into combat zones like Syria. The reality is that Kurulo only cares that he makes money, not the lives of the people that are in harm’s way.
World Harvest Centre has no holiness
It is not uncommon for people that work for the ministry at the church to be having dating relationships with married women. Fornication and adultery is a way of life around Christian Missionary Fellowship International .This is done with full knowledge of elders and “zone leaders.” In fact, some of it is even done in the homes of elders in the church. You can forget all those verses about holiness and righteousness. They are not needed around the World Harvest Centre family.
There is also cases of them taking passports from people that are going to the school. One young man came to the ministry, they took his passport and then lost it. This man was from Cambodia and there is no embassy anywhere close to Fiji to help him. Last I heard, he was still trapped in Fiji. This should have gotten Kurolo charged for human trafficking but he has friends in high places.
World Harvest believes in special revelation
I believe 100% in the prophetic ministry and God can speak through anyone at any time. Well, at CMF International, they believe that God only speaks through the the pastor and any “revelation” that he has is the “word of the Lord.” If it does not line up with the New Testament, that is ok…. the Apostle Paul must have been wrong and just slept wrong that night. God forbid that people as anointed as Suliasi Kurulo missed God even once.
When the emphasis is being put on a leader, you are already going down the road for problems. God can and will speak to anyone at any time in a meeting. It is not just the pastor that God uses. In the dozens of meetings that I have been at World Harvest Centre, I never heard a prophetic word given or tongues and interpretations at the meetings. This is odd. Every meeting, each believe should have a word, a song or a hymn from what the Lord is doing in private…. That is what the bible says.
I would guess I was in around 100 meetings at the church with about a thousand people (give or take), I find it hard to believe that the Holy Spirit had 100,000 opportunities to speak to the Bride of Christ and yet never did. This is not the model of the New Testament church.
I remember meeting at a prayer meeting and a pastor from the church was present praying for a man that was sick. There was no anointing on it in any way. After watching all types of unbiblical ministry happening; I rebuke the pastor directly, anointed the man with oil from prayer of faith over the man and he was healed by the power of the Holy Spirit.
What continues afterwards was man worship and the spirit of offense. They hold me that I “did not have the authority of the church” to pray for him and lay hands on him. My response was simple: I do not need a pastor’s authority to do the New Testament; I have the authority of Jesus to heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out devils and preach the gospel. Homie don’t play church politics. By the way, the Indian man was healed by Jesus.
How to deal with cults and unbiblical churches
Just because a church believes a little different does not make them a cult. You also have to be careful taking on ministries. Many of these groups operate with a serious spiritual level that if you are not full of the Spirit, they can destroy you. The bible tells us of a story where this happened. Two men was destroyed by the spirit of ministries. They were literally beaten down and stripped because of it.
The moral of the story is be very slow to call a church a cult and to attack ministry leaders. Simple disagree of theology is not enough grounds. It has to be serious issues as I outlined here. Dealing with dangerous and harmful groups requires much prayer and prophetic understanding.
I believe this serves as a warning to other involved with World Harvest Centre in Suva, Fiji. The issues are out there and it is up to them to seek freedom or keep the bondage that they have slap onto themselves.
What I do know is in Jesus the yoke is easy and the burden is light. Any burden to give to ministries is not biblical. Jesus took all burdens from us.
I know they would be coming. Questions Todd Bentley, his Pneumatology and Missiology. They came during Lakeland and they are coming again. Some people are lining up to yell heretic and others are living up to hear BAM! After all, BAM! is the new FIRE from the Brownsville Revival.
Personally I get concerned when I see leaders line up to endorse a guy like Todd. If Lakeland taught use anything, as question as they endorse; they will condemn at the first sign of trouble. Leaving the big names in ministry out of the loop is best. Plus, we are contending for a nameless and faceless generation.
Just as the people in Malta operating under a demonic prophetic anointing declared that Paul was a murderer (throwing the past in his face), the same is true of many of the heresy hunters in the blogshpere. What happened in 2009 is over. The mercies of the Lord is new every morning and today is a new day in the Spirit of God.
Does Todd Bentley have a Pneumatology problem?
He does. However, I will take someone full of the Holy Spirit and just believes God at face value over some dead Pentecostal preacher that would not know revival if it hit him in the face. Many of the pastors in the Assemblies of God rejected the Brownsville Revival. That tells you a little bit about discernment on their part. It is always easier to steer a moving boat than it is turn from a dead stop.
I do not share some of Todd’s ideas on having lattes with the Apostle Paul, Angels just chilling with him on a hot summer day, and some of the impartation of church history.
Pneumatology has been an area of weakness for many healing evangelists over the years, You can look at Charles Fox Parham teaching Oneness, Aimee Semple McPherson wierd ideas, William Branham ideas on angels, A.A. Allen telling everyone they have a devil and Lonnie Frisbee’s odd ideas as well. While Todd is in a list of people who some rather special ideas on the Holy Spirit. He is in a good company of saints through the Pentecostal movement.
I have been in many meetings with Todd Bentley. I am there to receive what the Lord has for me but I am not about to throw away my bible to do it. God will never tell you to check your brain at the door.
What is the missiology of Todd Bentley
From what I know, He has pretty close to the same view that we do at Latter Rains; we are marching towards the great end time harvest that all Pentecostal movements hold. Todd believes, as I do, we are heading towards a ONE BILLION soul harvest. I would say alot of that theology is grounded in a prophetic word that Mike Bickle received in Eypgt. God said He would change the understand and expression of Christianity in one generation. What I know from Todd’s missiology is close to what many of us in the Latter Rain hold. God will pour out his Spirit beyond measure to a people without mixture.
If you was to asked me the missiology of Todd, my guess would to live out Matthew 4:23 in the nations. Go amazing works in the world with signs, wonders, and miracles. Jesus came to heal the sick, raise the dead and cast out devils. He also gave us the same assignment as well. If we are not doing it; that is called sin.
Before you throw stones at Todd, consider this was much of the same view of people like William Seymour and Charles Fox Parham. A.G. Garr was touched at the Azusa Street Revival and within weeks he was leaving for India to take message of Pentecost to them. This is nothing new.
My take on Todd Bentley
He has his problems, both personally and theologically, but one thing Todd knows how to do it hosting the Holy Spirit. He does not get in a hurry to do anything and if he feels the people need to soak in the glory of God; he will soak no matter who is watching.
One thing I do admire about Todd is he is willing to forget preaching if the Holy Spirit is moving and God is building people’s faith without anyone teaching. This is something most pastors and even evangelists just can’t get enough freedom to do.
Before you throw stones at Todd, remember the Bible is full of screw ups and we do a disservice to over spiritualize people’s problems in the Bible. After all, we are just as much God’s people!
First of all, before I write any more, let me say this: I move in healing ministry and believe like Jesus did: the power of the Lord is present to heal. Healing is not optional for the believer and every Christian is healed by the same blood that saved them. I know some believer, myself included, that are not walking in the fullness of the price paid for me at Golgotha but truth does not change based on my experince.
We, Christians, have a way of downgrading the truth of God’s word to meet what we experince in our ministries but we should upgrade our experinces to match the Word of God. Jesus came to bring the Kingdom of God to earth destroying sin, sickness and the curse of them. Satan is under our feet and as Paul said, “the God of peace will soon crush satan under our feet.” (Romans 16:20)
While some are denying the innement return of the Lord in the air; some are teaching what is called “Kingdom Now” theology where basically we are trying to “prepare the earth for the second coming.” However, the truth is God is not interested in saving the world, He is only interested in saving humanity. Matthew quotes Jesus as saying “The heavens and the earth will pass away…” John tells us of the vision where this happened in Revelation. We are to be about saving tree, whales or anything else Al Gore tells us we should. We are to be about four things: preach the gospel, heal the sick, raise the dead, and cast out devils. Nothing more. Nothing less. Nothing else.
Several years, I was given an opportunity that I will never forget all my days. I had coffee with Dr. Oral Roberts. He told me several things but one of them is worthy of stating here, “Expect a miracle TODAY!” He did not tell me to believe for miracles or pray for miracles but to expect them. Those words live in my life and ministry all my days. When I travel to the nations and pray for the sick and demonized, I do not believe for signs and wonders, I expect them.
Today, after the “Lakeland Outpouring” mess that end in the worse possible way; many are questioning if healing ministry is a valid expression of the Kingdom of God in the 21st century. However, God is not moved from his position during Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John or Acts. He is the God of the gospels and He is the God of the Now. If He is God, He still heals. If He still saves, He stills delivers. If He still delivers, He still heals. It is a package deal.
The problem with healing ministry is not on God’s end!