The followers of Jonathan Welton and his Welton Academy have attacked me, my character and odd attacked me for being Pentecostal. Yes, I am being slammed for being a person of Pentecost. How do I respond to that attack? I am guilty as charged! Continue reading…
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I have been part of this thing that critic call the prophetic movement. It is a group of people who believe that God speaks today and through us. You can call it the Kansas City Prophets or people from Morningstar Ministries. In the end, we just want to hear God for people and respond. Continue reading…
Many years ago, I was raised in Pentecostal church but the focus was soul winning, praying in tongues and making sure the world knew their sin would lead them to hell. Jesus came to save and baptize us with power from on high. No one in the Assemblies of God would deny the power of God to heal the sick but there sure was not much focus on divine healing in Missouri. Continue reading…
Looking at my Kindle and I reading several books, one of them is Darren Wilson’s Filming God. I like Darren as a guy and I love to hear his journey out of unbelief into being “the defender of the miraculous.” He is alot like Randy Clark in alot of ways (minus the 1990’s haircut that Randy keeps)
When I am reading his book, I have remind myself that he is not a classic Pentecostal or someone raised in the Charismatic renewal. He was a good ole Baptist boy that questioned everything just a decade ago. His “mainframe” is your normal one that people who stand strong on healing have. The wiring is a different color.
I really am enjoying the book and most of his thoughts I agree…. but there is one that I have to passionately disagree with. I am sure Darren means well and I am sure this is his baptist roots kicking in. If someone even believe God could heal someone is radical in the Baptist movement. If you believe he would heal, you done lost your mind and went Dr. Ron Philips on everyone.
Divine Healing is not a gift!
This is where I fall off the train with Darren, theologically. I understand where he is coming from. I do. I just do not see it biblically as he does. I do not see healing as a gift. More on that in a minute.
In my experience, the main hurdle many people must overcome before they will fully put their trust in a God who loves them enough that He might possibly heal them through miraculous means is to come to an understanding that He might not heal them. (Darren Wilson, Filming God)
If you believe in the atonement of Jesus Christ (as I do), you can’t believe that God “might not” heal someone. Healing was paid for with the same blood as salvation. If God won’t heal you, He also did not save you. No one with any theological background (beside hard core calvinists) would not agree with that statement. Healing is part of salvation though.
At the heart of this discussion is what we call sozo. It is life to the soul and spirit but also to the mind (delivernce) and to the body (healing). It is complete transformation of the person. That is what salvation is.
Many will hold, “Divine healing is an integral part of the gospel. Deliverance from sickness is provided for in the atonement, and is the privilege of all believers.”
I agree with that with one little issue: privilege is too weak of a position. It is not just our privilege but is our birthright to be healed.
The fact of the matter is God loves to heal and in order to heal through us, he has to get healing to us. Miracles are just for you, they are to empower you so that miracles can flow through you.
The preaching of salvation with signs, wonders, and miracles was God’s design in the New Testament.
Healing is for you!
“Christ’s death on the cross not only provides for forgiveness of sin, but also healing for sickness. The One who gave you the gift of eternal life…is the same One who can heal your body.” Rev. Doug Clay
While Doug could not be considered a Benny Hinn type of any measurement, his thoughts are very powerful. This is coming from a man much more related to pastoral ministry than having an evangelistic signs and wonders ministry. In my view, pastors are normally the weakest on healing. (That’s another discussion)
When I hear a pastor made a blunt statement about healing like this, my ear pop open. Realizing it is not the common position for them; I know that the Holy Spirit must be speaking to them.
While I think saying that God can heal you is a copout, I do understand the reason for someone in a position of Clay would give the chicken exit. I am sure if I said the same about salvation; everyone would be completely up in arms. I have no idea what they do with the atonement.
The movement that Doug is part of is one that I was part of since the day I was born and I was saved in the Brownsville Revival. I love them but the Assemblies of God have become wimps when it comes to healing. Alot of Assemblies do not even preach it anymore. They prefer to talk about having your best life now and living with purpose.
Why Healing matters in revival?
We are a ministry committed to revival so why should we care about healing? It is not just an add-on on the evangelist’s menu of things to preach. It is the center of the message of the Kingdom of God. Healing is critical to winning the lost. As Mike Francen likes to put it, “A miracles settles the issue.” One miracle and the town repents and turns to God.
The reason that guys like Benny Hinn, Reinhard Bonnke and Richard Roberts put so much emphasis on healing is that is one thing that will convince the masses more than a thousand sermons. Without the supernatural, Christianity is just a story of a guy that made some pretty outlandish claims. Miracles are what makes them legit.
I have seem it a dozen times. A chief in the village comes to a crusade, he is healed by the power of God, when the people see he is healed, they all come to the crusade and get saved. One miracle will truly save a village.
Some of you have become arrogant, thinking I will not visit you again. But I will come—and soon—if the Lord lets me, and then I’ll find out whether these arrogant people just give pretentious speeches or whether they really have God’s power. For the Kingdom of God is not just a lot of talk; it is living by God’s power. (Apostle Paul)
Here is the video of Doug Clay about healing
Here is the promo for Holy Ghost Reborn by Darren Wilson
A.B. Simpson, a name that people forget about and founder of Christian Missionary Alliance had a powerful experience with the Holy Ghost. We love holy encounters!
The Lord has a way of touching people that wouldn’t expect it. It has happened time after time in the history of the Church. Simpson’s encounter is not a surprise, either.
One thing you have to understand about the man is he had an upbringing deep in Calvinism, Presbyterianism, and being a Puritan. There was, can we say, no emphasis on the Holy Spirit in his theological framework. They believe in full on Cessationism.
Even though he was a Presbyterian, he wanted to win the lost. He took one of the first churches he ministered at and transformed it to be a place of soul winning. He did not have the power of the Holy Spirit yet but he did have the burden the lost. At least, he was on a good track for revival.
A.B. Simpson was setup for Power Evangelism
He really wanted to see the lost saved. If you are hungry for souls, it is only a matter of time before you figure out that the power of the Holy Spirit is how to do it. Being a Calvinist just won’t work. His little five points is anti-evangelistic.
In 1889, he moved to what become known as the New York Tabernacle on 8th Avenue in New York City. Around that same time, he was having trouble with his theology. He wanted to see more success in the mission of soul winning. He had to find the missing link.
It was around this time, he came to have a ministerial philosophy of “Jesus our Savior, Sanctifier, Healer, and Coming King.” Oddly, this became the cornerstone for the Gospel of the Foursquare under the ministry of Aimee Semple McPherson as well.
The details of when he was baptised with the Holy Spirit is not completely clear but it was sometime around the time they moved to the New York Tabernacle. Shortly after that, he started preaching divine healing as an integral part of the gospel. It was not an addon to the gospel; it was the gospel just as much as salvation was.
The Assemblies of God did not exist yet and it was years ahead of the Azusa Street Revival. However, A.B. Simpson’s position on divine healing would become official doctrine on the Assemblies of God in 1916.
He would say in his book, A Larger Christian Life in 1890,
He is showing us the plan for a Christian church that is much more than an association of congenial friends to listen once a week to an intellectual discourse and musical entertainment and carry on by proxy a mechanism of Christian work; but rather a church that can be at once the mother and home of every form of help and blessing which Jesus came to give to lost and suffering men, the birthplace and the home of souls, the fountain of healing and cleansing, the sheltering home for the orphan and distressed, the school for the culture and training of God’s children, the armory where they are equipped for the battle of the Lord and the army which fights those battles in His name. Such a center of population in this sad and sinful world!
We can take to account that sometimes before 1890, he received the Baptism of the Holy Ghost but we are not sure when exactly.
A.B. Simpson and tongues
He is like many through history that struggled to believe that praying in tongues was the initial evidence of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Many believed it and many did not. It is believe that Simpson did pray in tongues but did not believed you have to in order to be baptized in the Holy Ghost.
The Christian Missionary Alliance developed a position that the fruit of the Spirit was the evidence of the Holy Ghost baptism and it was proved by a fruitful ministry. This was in directly conflict with the position what became the view of the Assemblies of God later, “The baptism of believers in the Holy Spirit is witnessed by the initial physical sign of speaking with other tongues as the Spirit of God gives them utterance.”
As more and more Pentecostal came to Nyack College to study theology; this became more and more of an issue. Some believe it was the evidence and others did not. It would create quite the controversy early on in the Pentecostal movement and in the Christian Missionary Alliance.
Modern Day Connections
Around 1921, they started a bible school in Seattle called Simpson Bible Institute. It was named about A.B. Simpson who had just died two years earlier. One of the booklet said that Seattle was ideal because it put them several hundred miles closer to China and easier to get missionaries on the ground in Asia.
In 1989, after many moves, they landed in Redding, California and around the same time, launched the A.W. Tozer Theological Seminary.
What else Redding, California has become known for is Bethel Assembly of God or today, Bethel Church led by Bill Johnson and Kris Vallaton. This is the linkage of two generation of missionary soulwinning together for a common vision of the Holy Ghost evangelism.
Bethel Church even had a service at the university once a week that focus on healing the sick, an emphasis of A.B. Simpson. Students of the Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry also stay on campus in one of the dorms of the school.
The coming together of two streams to form a river is a power thing in the Kingdom of God. The Christian Missionary Alliance represents a history that influenced the Pentecostal revival prior to it even existing and Bethel Church represents a modern healing revival that was very much the heart of A.B. Simpson.
With that, there are many in the Christian Missionary Alliance that do not openly embrace the modern move of God but that is true with every revival. One generation has a hard time passing the Baton to the next generation. It is just the Christian Missionary Alliance people that struggle with this.
Jesus gave us no less than six texts about what our orders were forward. They are found in Matthew 28:19, Mark 16:15-20, Luke 24:49, John 14 and Acts 1:7-8.
What is in comments with the text and what is the main message he has? In all by Matthew, the message is about healing the sick, raising the dead, casting the devils and preaching the gospel. Only Matthew missed the boat somehow. Continue reading…