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Jack Frost and the Father’s Embrace

Jack Frost was an amazing man that carried the message of the Fatherhood of God to the people of God. I really enjoyed listening to his ministry. While Jack has passed away, his work is still touching lives to this day.

I met Jack back in the heyday of the Toronto Blessing. He was there to teach and I was there to receive. It was probably the late 1990’s. I ran into him in the hallway and we had a great talk about the love of the Father. From that point, I follow his ministry from a distance. This was mainly due to he was in South Carolina and I was in Kansas City.

The truth of the matter is that many people have a messed up view of the Father because our culture is broken and men are not fathers. The emotional connection with most men is lacking and it creates a lack of understanding towards the Father heart of God. It is not healthy.

However, people like Jack Frost, Floyd McClung and James Jordan are trying to re-align the people of faith to understand the reality of the message of the heart of the Father. It is a needed message to the saints.

Jack Frost carried the Father message

One thing that really impacted me was that we can see Christ as the Bridegroom and see the Spirit but we struggle to see God as Father. It is because of the broken culture that we live in. Men are not men in our society.

I had my own struggles to see God as Father. I grew up in the home of a Army officer. While my dad was quite good at what he did, he was not emotionally there for his kids. He ran the family like a military unit. It gave me a unhealthy view of the Fatherhood of God.

As Jack says in his book, Experiencing Father’s Embrace,

Caring words, friendships, affectionate touch- all of these have a healing quality. Why? Because we were all created by God to receive and express love.

The fact of the matter is that we need men to be emotionally present in the home and went that happens, healing will happen to the heart of children. The passion of the Bridegroom is His banner over us is love. Isiash told us that when the enemy comes in like a flood, the Lord will raise up a standard against it. The word standard is flag of victory.  The bottom line is we are King’s Kids and because of that, we have the victory. A revelation of victory heals the brokenness of the believer.

I believe that the lacking ministry in the saints is that of kindness. It is the kindness of God that leads men to repentance but where is that kindness in the people of faith. Kindness heals but sadly, there is little of it happening in most Pentecostal and Charismatic churches today. This is a major concern if we want true revival.

Isn’t this just “Christian psychology?”

There is a group of believers, godly people who love the move of the Spirit, that hold that anything taught in university’s psychology classes must be rejected fully. Another group of godly people who love the move of the Spirit, hold that we should use psychology in the Church and redeem it. The debate over biblical counseling vs Christian psychology is not one that I want to get into right now. I just will say I stand in the middle. Some things we can use and some things must be completely rejected as New Age ideals.

Jack Frost and others seem to be of the conviction that it should be redeemed and complete rejection of it was going to cost us some powerful revelation that the people of faith needed to walk in power and authority. I can respect that. I am sure there was many elements of the science that he did not believe in or teach.

What I do know is lives were changed by the ministry of Jack Frost and if it was a little psychology mixed into it, so be it. I am more concerned with the transformed lives than I am if there was a little secular teaching from the university.

What many may not understand or realize is I am a student of philosophy. I have studied the writing of people like Plato, Soren Kierkegaard and Friedrich Nietzsche. Some of those studies have impacted my preaching. Yes, there is secular philosophy in the preaching of the gospel of Jesus Christ. I have results from it too!

A more biblical view of Colossians 2:8

At the center of this discussion, be it about philosophy or psychology, is the passage where Paul was writing to a church 2,000 years ago who their own unique problems and issues. While there is application today, we have to be careful not to remove it from his historical and cultural context.

See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ.

Many people translate this to say “all philosophy and psychology is evil and deceptive.” The problem with this view is that is NOT what Paul said or was saying in the wider context of the letter.

We know this to be true because if you read the verse before and after it,

So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live your lives in him,  rooted and built up in him, strengthened in the faith as you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness.

 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ.

For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,  and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority.

What Paul is saying is there is good and bad teaching. Philosophy that leads to dead works, dead religion and humanism is wrong and evil. However, there is also philosophy that leads to freedom, life and liberty. Those are not to be rejected. Those who just throw all philosophy and psychology out the window are making a serious error in my opinion.

I do recommend that you check out some of the teaching from Jack Frost. Really good and solid stuff.

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