The Church of God (Cleveland, Tn) is a very interesting group of people. They are a Pentecostal movement that came around the same time as the Azusa Street Revival but they were not part of that outpouring. They had their own movement going on and later received greatly from what became known as the “Azusa of the East Coast” under the ministry of G.B. Cashwell. Continue reading…
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Like many Pentecostals, I woke up to the news this morning that Dr. Mark Walker, pastor of Mount Paran Church of God in Atlanta was joining the staff of Lee University to head up ministerial training. What does this mean and how could change things for future Pentecostal preachers? Continue reading…
Thinking of going to IHOP University at the International House of Prayer in Kansas City? You might want to do some more research. There are some major challenges to the school that are hidden on the websites and some of them are not even mentioned.
I went to the school when it was the Forerunner School of Prayer. It was more of a prayer focused version of the Berean School of the Bible back then. Most of the teaching was by Mike Bickle, Kevin Matthews, and a little by Graham Walsh. It was great and focused on revival. However, it was not legit education.
Before we go any futhur any into this, I want to say I have the deepest respect for Allen Hood and Mike Bickle. Allen is a solid guy and was always there when I had a question. I thought the world of him. He also knew how to let education be inferior to the move of the Spirit. Something most people with a seminar degree just can’t do.
With that said, I strongly suggest you re-think going to IHOP University.
IHOP University has a history of cancelling class
Around the House of Prayer, they tend to let a few people; Mike Bickle, Julie Meyers, Misty Edwards and a few others make the schedule for the school. What do I mean by that? They will call classes off for a month because someone had a prophetic dream that if they have a fast and do not but contend in prayer; breakthrough will come.
Instead of being in class, students are expected to be in the prayer room contending for whatever Misty, Julie or Mike thinks needs to be contended for. This is great in a ministry context but this is hardly serious academia research.
There is no library to speak of on campus. Nothing anywhere close to the ORU library, William G. Squires Library at Lee University, or Cordas C. Burnett Library at Assemblies of God Theological Seminary.
IHOP University is more of a pay to pray thing than it is a real academic research type of thing.
IHOP University gives you useless degrees
I do not know why they will not seek some type of accreditation
This is straight from the website of IHOPU
IHOPU is not presently pursuing accreditation. However, the values represented by accreditation (particularly academic excellence and relationship with other theological institutions) are very important to IHOPU. For this reason, IHOPU is not opposed to pursuing accreditation in the future if it can be done without compromising our vision and core values, and if it actively builds relationships with theological institutions to transfer credits.
I know for sure that in the last 14 years they have not made one step towards getting any accreditation in any way. I do not think they will in the next 14 years either. This is a problem because all you get is a paper than no one will honor and you can forget higher education.
One reason I believe they don’t want it is many of the “professors” are not qualified to even teach their own subjects. Many of them do not have legit bible training.
Realize you will graduate without any degree that mean anything in the real world and will have no marketable skills.
Need financial freedom? Not at IHOP University
According to their website, your tuition as a freshman is $2,275 per semester, zero help from the school and you are not allow to work. Either you have upper middle class parents, your church paying, or you will struggle. I could not have done it at 19 years old, that is for sure. My parents are Gates, Buffet, or Waltons.
What is could cause is a bunch of William Seymour that sit in the hallway hoping to hear the class and get what he could. In that case, it was race; in this case, would be economical class.
You also have to consider that this does not include housing or food. Throw around $4,000 a year into the mix and you are looking around $10,000 with no help, no job and no chance to do anything with your degree.
In reality, for most this will spell trouble for many students at IHOP University.
What options are there besides IHOP University
My suggestion is find either a real bible school that works for what you want to do, what you can afford and give you the tools to move forward or look at a training school such as Youth With A Mission, Iris Ministries (Heidi Baker) or a short term school in Toronto or Bethel Redding.
If you have the resources, Oral Roberts University is a great school to be train in and you will get real experience for ministry. I have never been a student here but I hear great things about Elim Bible Institute as well.
I left bible school (Central Bible College in Springfield, Missouri) and finished through Global University. It is not cheap but you can do one class at a time and work your way through it. They are full accredited as well.
Master’s Commission is another amazing opportunity to get training. For less than IHOP University, you could be trained in the middle of a move of God at the Dream Center Leadership School that includes room and board. Theology and practical ministry married together.
Are you called to the mission field? Harvest School in Mozambique is another option that you have. In the midst of world missions, you learn on the job from some of the best missionaries that are alive today. You can do it for about half what IHOP University wants as well.
Am I telling you not to go to IHOPU?
Not at all. I am telling you to get all the facts before going. There is alot of things on the website that are not full truths and half-truths is what sets you up for failure in life. I just want people to make an informed decision about what path is best for them in the quest for biblical education and getting to the ministry.
I hope this helps.
I will never forget Feb. 8, 2006. I was in my office working on my things when I got a call from a friend of mine that is in Asbury Seminary. He was excited because, “God was pouring out in chapel.” I thought to myself, “Asbury, Methodist school in KY? Huh? This does not register!” I told my friend to tell me what God was doing. He told me, “Well it looks like it did when you took me to that Brownsville thing in Florida back in the day.” So what did I do? I flew to Kentucky to see this move of God!
I walked in the chapel and saw a girl curled up in a ball weeping in intercession for her school. I look up at the altar and saw many students laying prostrate seeking the God of heaven for breakthrough in their lives. The president of the college told me he had not seen anything like this before. My response was simply, “Brother, if we are going to see what we have never seen, we have to do what we have never done.”
So what on earth do Asbury College and Lee University have in common, and why do I write to you about this? If God could pour out His Spirit at a Methodist school in Kentucky, why would He not do it at a Pentecostal school in Tennessee? Could we have a move of the Holy Spirit happen in our chapel services? What would it be like if the leadership of Lee had to cancel classes because the wind of the Holy Spirit blazed His way through our mundane chapel meetings? These are questions the move of God at Asbury has raised in my heart.
I was born into revival. When I was at Central Bible College, I saw God comes in such power, the president cancelled classes for a week as we cry out in intercession for the denomination we were part of. It is clear as yesterday, laying on the floor of E. S. Williams Chapel wailing in the Spirit for hours only to stand up to go lay hands on a girl in a wheelchair that got in a wreck several weeks before. The girl was never going to walk again but she was doing “victory laps” around the chapel that day! Why was it? I believe it was because there were a people who had made prayer propriety. If God can do at Central Bible College, I believe he can do at Lee.
Okay, so what do I suggest to get this type of presence on our campus? As a people, we must start to look at our lives and answer the question, “Am I living worthy of the call of God?” Once that is answered, we can get set ourselves before the Lord in prayer contending for God to pour out His Spirit in a tangible way. The other thing I know about moves of God is they do not like to be put in the box of time restraints. Is a move of God possible at Lee? Yes! Will we pay the price for a move of God with our personal agendas?
That is the question that must be answered and the decision will change the destiny of every student, staff, and faculty. How bad do we want a move of God?